I go to one of the Apple Stores in my area and ask them when they will have some refurbs available. They usually have a one or two day sale once a month to refresh their display models. Or, you can go to the Apple.com website. Go to the Store and look on the left towards the bottom of the page. It's usually written in red. If you are a student or the parent of a student, you can shop in the Apple Store for Education. The prices there are about $100-$200 lower for hardware and considerably lower (1/2 price) for software. Not for people using the hardware/software for commercial purposes though. A non-Apple source that's very reliable is SmallDog. They are in Vermont. You get real people and they are very trustworthy. SmallDog.com sb On 12/17/04 9:03 PM, "lilyplant" <lilyplant at poetworld.net> wrote: > Thank you for info re programs, refurbs and correction on motherboards. > If there's a sellor you particularly like, please let me know. > > on 2/8/04 9:55 AM, sb at videovideo at mac.com wrote: > >> If you get an external DVD burner you won't be able to use it with iDVD, but >> you will be able to use it with DVDSP and also Toast 6. >> >> As to the Apple refurbs, I have also bought a couple (laptops and desktops) >> and not had any trouble that wasn't completely and quickly covered under >> Applecare. About the same amount of failures as my brand new stuff, so I >> enjoy the couple of hundred dollars savings and buy refurbs whenever I'm >> ready to buy and they've got them for sale. (I'm looking seriously at that >> dual 2gb G5 myself!) >> >> And, you get two processors, not two motherboards. >> sb >> >> On 12/17/04 7:02 PM, "lilyplant" <lilyplant at poetworld.net> wrote: >> >>> sounds like excellent advice. Thank you. follow up questions. >>> >>> Do you think a refurb is safer than a less expensive used (I have had 2 mac >>> lemons which were rebuilt through applecare). Because of my experience I am >>> concerned that with a dual processor, I'd have to replace two mother boards >>> if one when out. >>> >>> are you saying that mac won't support and iDVD won't work with an external >>> DVD drive because it's 3rd party? >>> >>> on 2/7/04 7:09 PM, sb at videovideo at mac.com wrote: >>> >>>> The best bang for the buck would be a dual G4 with superdrive. >>>> >>>> If you do a lot of CD burning as well, you can go for either a 2nd internal >>>> optical drive or an external CD burner. >>>> >>>> It'a very easy to add a 2nd hard drive to a Mac tower, you can pick up a >>>> highly rated Hitachi 120GB 7200rpm with 8MB cache for about $85 at >>>> NewEgg.com. They also list a 160GB for about $125. >>>> There are other online sites that have sales/specials or mail in rebates >>>> for >>>> as low as $40 after rebate for Western Digital or Maxtor brand. >>>> >>>> Get an internal DVD burner, just in case you want to use iDVD (version 4 is >>>> pretty darn good.) >>>> Buy Toast 6 too, and of course DVDSP2, if you are doing more complicated, >>>> professional DVDs. >>>> >>>> If you want to spend more, then go for a dual g5 w/superdrive refurb on the >>>> Apple website. $2400. >>>> >>>> Apple refurbs (at Apple Stores too) come with warranty, latest OS (but >>>> ask!) >>>> etc. and iApps. >>>> >>>> sb >>>> >>>> On 12/16/04 11:46 PM, "lilyplant" <lilyplant at poetworld.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I need advice re purchase of desktop mac for dvd work. I want a workhorse. >>>>> what processor, dual or single, what speed, external or internal hd for >>>>> backup, external or internal drive to burn both cd and dvd or just cd and >>>>> get external too. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like good used equipment and learn to replace drives if needed. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> lily