But we're talking about Mac OS 9 here -- and if an app tries to access the TCP/IP stack and it *thinks* it's there, but it's really not, this might cause an app to quit. Or if the cable modem is fried, who knows what kind of crazy new signal paths have been created to wreak havoc with network communication. (to the original poster): 1. Open the TCP/IP control panel 2. Open "User Mode..." from the "Edit" menu 3. Click the "Advanced" button then click "OK" (this will add a new "Options" button on the control panel) 4. Click the "Options" button opened up in step 3 and click "Inactive" 5. Close the control panel. Now try to launch one of the apps and see if it still hangs/crashes. Maybe that'll help? - Mark On Aug 17, 2005, at 4:48 PM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote: > You can run Safari, IE, Netscape, Mail, Outlook etc. despite the lack > of a modem or ethernet port.