Eight of 10 times, FIRST startup of ViaVoice causes Console and Crash Logs to appear, but everything's ok after quitting them. Date/Time: 2003-07-23 07:44:23 +1000 OS Version: 10.2.6 (Build 6L60) Host: Brian-Farleys-Computer.local. Command: Unknown PID: Unknown And yes, I have removed the IE and other utility file recommended. This has been happening consistently through many builds. Anyone? Brian