I gave up on both iListen and Via Voice about 3 years ago; neither was useful for me for dictating reports. I went back to word processing by kbd and using a secretary. I've just read a bunch of posts to catch up on recent developments, and this list has been very helpful. I'm on a G4 dual 500, and an iBook G3, using OS 10.3.5, soon to be 10.3.6 As I understand status of the field now, ViaVoice works on 10.3, but will not be upgraded. iListen is being improved, and is probably much better than it was when I quit it. So, I'm inclined to go with iListen... but several posts indicated that ViaVoice is still better for dictation. Since threads on this topic ran a few months ago, I'm hoping that my request for an update won't be offensive. Perhaps other dedicated MacHeads who want to dictate will learn with me from those list members who are kind enough to share recent experiences. bertpepper at mac.com