Bert (and everyone else): When we came out with version 1.1 of iListen (the first version to include Correction), the consensus was 50-50. About 50% of the people who had tried both programs got as good or better results with iListen, while 50% still felt ViaVoice was more accurate. With each version of the product since (it is now at 1.6.5) we have improved many facets of the program to the point that the majority now believe iListen is "as good or better" than ViaVoice. There are still those who will get overwhelmingly better results while dictating using one or the other. This is due to primarily to the differences in the base voice models between the two programs. In short, if your voice sounds more like the base voice model employed by iListen for your gender, you will have a better "out of the box" experience with it over ViaVoice (and vice versa). But over time, employing Correction on a consistent basis should, in the vast majority of cases, negate any initial differences. The larger question is whether you want to support a product that has had absolutely no development on it for almost two years, and whose product is difficult to install and get up and running for some people on the current version of the OS? Or would you prefer to support a company who has remained dedicated to making sure the product works on the Mac OS and continues to improve it with each release. I will make no pretense here. We are a small company, but we have been around since 1999. Speech recognition on the Mac is the only thing we do. Unlike IBM we can't afford to discontinue development of all speech related products for consumers (as they did in April of 2003). More importantly, each and every sale is important to us, and it is equally important that each user have a satisfying experience with our product. Are 100% of our customers satisfied? No. There are those who, for one reason or another, can not (or are not ready to) use speech recognition. We have many customers who purchased a few years ago, put the product on the shelf as "not ready for prime time" and recently upgraded it and are extremely happy with the results they are getting. Naturally, there are those who want it to be better still, and we will keep working at it until we meet their standards as well. I just wanted to throw my two cents in here and tell you we'd really like to have you as a customer, and we will try hard to make sure things work for you. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. On Nov 6, 2004, at 12:19 AM, Bert Pepper wrote: > I gave up on both iListen and Via Voice about 3 years ago; neither was > useful for me for dictating reports. I went back to word processing by > kbd and using a secretary. > > I've just read a bunch of posts to catch up on recent developments, > and this list has been very helpful. > > I'm on a G4 dual 500, and an iBook G3, using OS 10.3.5, soon to be > 10.3.6 > > As I understand status of the field now, ViaVoice works on 10.3, but > will not be upgraded. > iListen is being improved, and is probably much better than it was > when I quit it. So, I'm inclined to go with iListen... but several > posts indicated that ViaVoice is still better for dictation. > > Since threads on this topic ran a few months ago, I'm hoping that my > request for an update won't be offensive. Perhaps other dedicated > MacHeads who want to dictate will learn with me from those list > members who are kind enough to share recent experiences. > > bertpepper at mac.com > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice >