I did all that and still same problem. I'm going to call Apple and see what happens. I just bought the applecare pack, so maight as well put it to work...8^)) On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:40 PM, Lynn Roylance wrote: > Try running repair disk from your software install DVD. Applejack > is a great utility to repair the disk +, Applejack is available at > VersionTracker.com or MacUpdate.com > > You might even try downloading the combination update for your > system (10.4.8) and install that. > > Lynn >