dear list, correct me if I am wrong, but why did Jobs turn into Gates? If I get an IBM compatible computer today I should be able to instal and run DOS, and only DOS, on it if I want. Again, correct me if I am wrong, because I have not done so and I don't know for sure. With my Ti I am forced to use anything newer than System 9. Even if I much rather prefer the b/w graphics, the hardrive and RAM savings, and possible speed improvements of System 6 on a Titanium, I am not "allowed" to do so. In this sense its not Jobs who is malicious, it is, and has always been, Appel philosophy to force its customers to use the latest and greatest, even if they have not he slightest interest in doing so. Please review: http://www.electric-chicken.co.uk/ for further Appel specific insanity. Christoph an otherwise "happy" Ti user