On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 11:53 pm, cbirds wrote: > > How does Safari not recognize the counter format, nor the previous > hits? I thought "hits wuz hits"? > view the source, the only the way to see how the counter is being invoked. there are quite a few Javascript methods which only work in IE (some even only on IE on a PC) , the page could be making use of those. html is a bit of a black art. If you want your web page to display well on all browsers you need to try to make it standards compliant (w3c.org) but even then there are plenty of tricks and hacks that work well on some browsers and badly on others. Safari is a perfectly respectable, standards compliant browser, but most web pages are not. just my tuppence, T