I had noticed that when I start up my 15.2" Al Powerbook, that the start-up is quite slow. This seemed to be a result of my recent upgrade to Panther 10.3.2. From what I recall, my Ti-500 had a start-up time of about 1 min 2 sec at best, but my current 15.2" Al-book was definitely slower. I noticed this issue of start-up speed on Macintouch today. This command in Terminal is supposed to fix this problem: sudo cp -p /System/Library/Extensions/BootCache.kext/Contents/Resources/BootCacheControl /usr/sbin/ Two subsequent re-starts are required. There is an alternative GUI version of this at MacUpdate: <http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/13672> I used the command in the terminal. It has definitely improved the start-up. From the "chime" at start up, I observed this: completely black screen for 20 seconds grey Apple appears at 20 seconds blue screen appears at 46 seconds start-up complete at 54 seconds Just for interest, I timed Windows XP start-up on Virtual PC6. Virtual PC takes 2 seconds to display the Virtual PC List. (Starting up XP from a saved PC state takes 9 seconds.) Starting up XP from a turned-off-PC state took 52 seconds. I noticed that Windows XP shows a graphic almost from the beginning of the start-up, whereas OS X gives a 20 sec black screen. Not very user-friendly. It is somewhat ironic that XP starts up in Virtual PC faster than the host OS (X) starts up!! (Just for interest, I timed start-up (from shut down) of the Compaq 2.8 Ghz PC I have in my office, that runs Windows XP Pro. It was 47 seconds.) Is my experience comparable to the rest of you running a similar system? regards, Trevor 1,25G4/15.2"/FW800/1Gb/80Gb-5400