On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 08:48 AM, Mike Stanley wrote: > How many OS X updates - especially those significant enough to be point > releases - have you installed without having to restart? They all say > you'll have to restart at least once, if not more, during the install > process That's one of the things that sucks about OS X, and why I have a hard time believing I could run it ( OS X Server) on servers. There is no need to restart a unix system unless you replace the kernel. You can replace programs, libraries, or whatever, and just use the init scripts to restart the upgraded app and load the new configs into memory. I did not look at the date stamp on my kernel, so maybe the kernel was replaced with this latest upgrade, but there again, a point release does not replace the kernel on a unix upgrade. If you can imagine this type of thing on an XServe serving PHP pages, and you run the upgrade and the system is broken - without warning, and it requires a restart to complete the upgrade - simply unacceptable for _any_ unix system, desktop or server. -- Chris Olson Administrator AST Communications, Inc. Barron, WI USA