>If you can imagine this type of thing on an XServe serving PHP >pages, and you run the upgrade and the system is broken - without >warning, and it requires a restart to complete the upgrade - simply >unacceptable for _any_ unix system, desktop or server. This is one of the reasons that our servers are running 10.1.5 and will for the foreseeable future. The $1000 per server upgrade price is another; it is ludicrous in today's market to expect to pay those sort of fees for a x.x upgrade. This is obviously still a work in progress that Apple expects their most loyal adopters to pay for. Any upgrade to Jag server will occur when we upgrade to Xserves, where the OS is included. And that will also occur when they are most likely calling it something other than Jaguar ;-) While I find the Jaguar client very stable and worthwhile...most of those benefits do not apply to servers, which are mostly running headless. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Mike Bigley Maineville, Ohio http://www.norbertrunning.com Please support an American Indian Elder & Medicine Man by visiting the above link. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>