> who cares about market share when you have a superior product. XXL <xxl at mac.com> wrote: This is the exact arrogance that let Apple give it all away to Wintel when Apple had a clear advantage. Two other hallmarks of Apple that are rarely discussed are arrogance and greed. And those two have kept the better qualities of Apple from being triumphant in the market place. -Joel Kevin wrote: Apple did not give it all away to Wintel, Apple still has a clear advantage in my mind. In my world Apple has always made a better os and computers than the Wintel world. I do not think of Apple as arrogant or greedy, I think of Microsoft in that way though. It seems as though many on this list feel as though Apple has lost and Apple should become open to the Windows way of doing things. I feel exactly the opposite, I feel Apple has won, they have a better product and their decisions are often copied by everyone else months down the road, a true leader of innovation. If I felt that Apple was arrogant and had already gave it all away to Wintel I'd be using a pc. Kevin