thanks for the reply. i did not know that that was what the three beeps signified. actually, i bought the ram at owc (other world computing). have given them a lot of business over the years. i'll give then a call and get a replacement chip. thanks, eric On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 10:11 AM, Kynan Shook wrote: > 3 beeps means the computer found no good RAM installed in the > computer. Somebody else suggested that it wasn't seated properly; > this is possible, but fairly unlikely. In my job as a repair > technician, I see a fair amount of RAM go bad; sometimes it can be > from something like a lightning strike (in which case, you'll see at > least 2 or 3 other bad parts in the same computer), but most of the > time it's just because you bought whatever was cheapest. The more > expensive RAM comes from companies that do better testing, and have > better quality control, meaning less RAM of marginal quality is sold. > > That said, let me guess where you bought your memory... 18004memory? > (aka Coast to Coast) Just a wild guess, but I've heard of so much bad > RAM coming out of that place that I wouldn't want to touch a computer > that's got their RAM installed. They're also usually the cheapest > around. > > My personal recommendation would be to use Crucial (crucial.com). > They have excellent quality; Apple even uses their RAM, and it's the > only major company where the manufacturer (Micron) sells directly to > customers. > > Another thing to note; you can try using Apple Hardware Test or other > software tools to figure out which stick of RAM (or both) is bad, but > if they say everything is OK, don't believe it necessarily; Those > tools are generally 100% accurate when they say a component is bad-if > the RAM fails, the RAM needs to be replaced. But it is impossible for > those tools to catch even half of all RAM that is marginally bad. In > that case, you have to install one stick of RAM at a time, and see if > you still have problems while using the computer (crashes, kernel > panics, failures to boot, etc.). Crashes (hard lockups, not just > application crashes) in OS X are more often a sign of bad hardware > than those crashes were in OS 9. > > Eric <EricDD at myrealbox.com> writes: >> thanks john: the ram does have a lifetime guarantee. it's a 512 chip >> (for 768 total - and I'm running 10.2.6) but interestingly, this is a >> replacement chip- the first one caused complete system freezes >> constantly. i've had this one for i'm guessing about 6 months now >> with >> no problems. so the question then is can ram go bad? i should note >> that in the last couple weeks i've had a few freezes. thanks again. > > > Kynan Shook > kshook at mac.com > http://homepage.mac.com/kshook/index.html > > > ---------- > Check out the Titanium email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Titanium.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Titanium-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Titanium-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <Titanium-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your > Mac ISP Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! > http://macinternetaccess.com > > RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler > CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at <http://roadtools.com> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml >