I submit that, even as we discuss this, Apple is working through all the copyright and licensing issues in all the other countries as quickly as possible and that worldwide access will happen as rapidly as possible. It is the same for including independent recording artists in this service. Steve himself has said it will happen very soon, now that Apple has the service up and running. Think of this as a roll-out, not the finished product. If there's any finger pointing to do or if you have feelings of discrimination, you should look at the general paranoia within the entertainment industry, but also at your own governments and their obstructionist attitudes toward all things American. That's where the problems lie. Blaming Apple won't solve anything. Ron Woodland On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 12:25 PM, e. wu wrote: >> >> On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 06:32 PM, PowerBook G4 Titanium List >> wrote: >> >>> Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 16:43:17 +0200 >>> From: Eduard Hoenkamp <hoenkamp at acm.org> >>> Subject: [Ti] I won't sign the petition [was: Canadians need not >>> apply!] >>> Message-id: <p05210600bad6ceeb41c0@[131.174.200.214]> >>> >>> I am unhappy with the petition page mentioned in this digest >>> http://www.petitiononline.com/AppleInt/petition.html which notes: >>> "the ability to buy music from countries other than the U.S. is not >>> available". Yet, iTunes tells me: "you won't be able to purchase >>> music unless your billing[!] address is in the United States". Even >>> if in practice this may amount to the same for many people, the >>> petition seems to express that Apple acts in bad faith. I am not >>> 'dismayed' as the petition declares, perhaps disappointed. But this >>> says something about me, and not about Apple. I would like to grant >>> Apple the time needed to finesse its license and purchasing issues >>> abroad, as these must be hairy issues. Perhaps to test my ploint, I >>> wake up my sleeping billing address in the US and see if I can use >>> this to purchase music even while living abroad. I suggest Apple adds >> a line about the reason for the expressed policy. Eduard. > > Why is everyone pointing fingers at Apple? Apple doesn't necessarily > control where/what the record companies want to sell. Apple is just a > middleman. Just take a look at DVDs. Hello? Region encoding anyone? > And as other people are pointing out, can *anyone* really give *any* > sort of proof that *any* company isn't selling to a particular > country/region because of prejudice? What business *wouldn't* want to > make money if they could? > > ---------- > Check out the Titanium email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Titanium.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Titanium-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Titanium-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <Titanium-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your > Mac ISP > Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! > http://macinternetaccess.com > > RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler > CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at <http://roadtools.com> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml >