söndagen den 11 maj 2003 kl 16.30 skrev William Scammell: >> lördagen den 10 maj 2003 kl 14.45 skrev Joel Hopwood: >> Not quite true. Only the cloverleaf (or as we call it in Sweden the >> symbol for ruin since this is how we mark ancient monument on our >> maps) ... > > "ruin"? that's interesting. > > i always referred to it as the "pretzel" key. So do many Swedes, as well as call it _cinnemon bun_ (a popular coffe cake). We do _not_ call it ruin key. :-) It is the symbol on the key which has the same shape as the ruin symbol. Lisbeth in Gothenburg <http://homepage.mac.com/holisticum> updat gardens 030418 <http://www.got-a-mac.org> medlemssida för Got-a-Mac (Mug in Gothenburg)