On 5/19/03 10:15 AM, "Jesse Brown" <jesse.brown at mac.com> wrote: > On 5/19/03 10:44, "Sam Hotchkiss" <ti at zlit.net> wrote: > >>>> If you look closer I wrote "ll" not "cp". >>>> I figured that if someone wanted to copy something they might want to >>>> see >>>> what they are going to copy, but that's just me. >>> >>> >>> And what command does that refer to? I'm still not following you. >> >> On many systems ll is equal to ls -l > > > I'm sorry Sam, thanks for the clarification. I've worked on numerous Unix > systems and have never seen any documentation where "ls -l" ( list contents > in long format) referred to as ll. > > In BSD (OS X) "ll" does not work from the command line, so I'm at a loss as > to why it was used to illustrate this example. "UNCLE!" I admit that it was a huge mistake here using the common "ll" alias as an example. No it is not an RFC; yes it can usually be found aliased in most .*rc files. Perhaps I should have considered my audience (OSX users with 2 years experience?) and sent a 45 minute Microsoft X Powerpoint presentation to demonstrate the labyrinthine process of the incredibly sophisticated 3 day procedure of viewing the contents of a single directory so that nobody will be so perplexed when I start with the Stephen Hawking impressions. Here is a copy of a BSD .cshrc. Notice, BSD builds in an ll alias. ################################################################## # $FreeBSD: src/share/skel/dot.cshrc,v 1.10.2.3 2001/08/01 17:15:46 obrien Exp $ # # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell # # see also csh(1), environ(7). # alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias la ls -a alias lf ls -FA alias ll ls -lA # A righteous umask umask 22 set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr /usr/bin $HOME/bin) #source ~loren/.aliases setenv EDITOR vi setenv PAGER more setenv BLOCKSIZE K set prompt="%m:%BLoren:%b%~> " if ($?prompt) then # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up set filec set history = 100 set savehist = 100 set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) if ( $?tcsh ) then bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word bindkey -k up history-search-backward bindkey -k down history-search-forward endif Endif #####################################################################