On Oct 4, 2004, at 1:01 AM, Lisbeth Zachs wrote: >> Next course of action would be to write postmaster@<isp> and ask them >> directly if they're advertising APOP but not actually implementing >> it. > ------- > But wasn't the original issue the other way around? Mail.app tried to > use APOP against the home ISP and the hotel ISP couldn't help with > that service. First, like Chris said, the hotel would just be a carrier and would not affect this. APOP is just another option on top of regular POP and POP itself would likely not be firewalled. This would kind of be analogous to going to a regular web page over HTTP and also being able to go to a web page where you have to login to view it. Second, APOP is only tried when a server advertises that it is supported. Mail.app tried to use the most secure method available, and since APOP is advertised as available, it goes for it. -- Justin R. Miller incanus at codesorcery.net