any of the sennheiser closed back over ear headphones are great, even better when you open them up and dynamat the inside. and i was turned on to the radio shack pro 35 titanium headphones from an old car stereo friend who wanted more volume with his ipod back when they first came out. i don't know if they make them anymore, but they really do rock hard, and they are highly efficient. only like 35 bucks vs 65 minimum for the senns. I believe the senn EH2200 or 2800 are what i've been using for ~two years. a little bass heavy, but they purportedly drop ambient noise by like 15db. a pain in the butt to travel with though. especially with the long cord. my brother swears by his sanyo i believe, DJ headphones. they sound pretty good too. the pro 35s sound incredibly good and go way louder than the senns on the same input voltage. perfect for earlier ipods. my wife uses them by choice anytime she grabs headphones, come to think of it, so do i when i'm stashing them in my bag... -Jason Economou Carbotron Composites kradcarbon.com On Apr 8, 2005, at 8:45 PM, DinkyBlah at aol.com wrote: Hi list, what do you guys suggest for headphones that can both be used with pb to watch dvd's and also used with ipod that aren't earbuds? would really prefer an over the ear headphone as recently saw these two on dealmac. Sennheiser HD-280 headphones for $80 Sennheiser HD595 Dynamic Stereo Headphones for $139.99 anyone used these before or have other suggestions for headphones? any and all help would be much appreciated. thanks danny _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984