> Peter Krug wrote: > > >> On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:48 PM, ~flipper wrote: >> >>> And the Apple "Pro" keyboards. I use a 14 dollar compaq board on >>> a 7 year old PC at work. it feels terrific compared to the Apple. >>> The Apple feels like the keys are sitting in a nice bed of warm >>> oatmeal, in comparison. >>> >>> >> >> I agree on the Apple keyboards. These newest ones are even worse >> than the "pro" keyboards that shipped a couple of years ago. I >> love the old ADB extended keyboard II. In fact, I'm typing on one >> right now with an iMate USB adapter. Coffee stains and all. It >> seems as the laptop keyboards got better and better, the Desktop >> keyboards went into a tailspin. On 10-Jun-05, at 7:48 PM, ~flipper wrote: > Peter, > > Meanwhile, i've wondered about the old Apple Extended IIs... > > I've got 4 or 5 Apples, and a Matias (what crappy USB engineering > on that thing, whoosh, command-key anomalies, a real dud, except > for the great clackety-clack keys, awesome in that regard). > > So, have you seen any intermittent oddities with the old board? This may be an ancient thread within a thread, but it just caught my eye. I have been using a Matias Tactile Pro now for well over a year and love it. It is just like typing on the old Apple Pro Extended ADB that I knew and loved. What is the crappy USB engineering that you refer to? I also have an old DataDesk Modular ADB/serial keyboard that has the same Alps key switches, but is not quite as noisy. It also has a built in trackball. But it doesn’t have the media eject or speaker volume keys. I have been thinking of getting a Griffin iMate converter, cleaning out the dust and giving it a try again. jg