Steven Rogers said: >After all that, I think it's still worth saying that it can pay to >shop around. Go to Mac Connection, Mac Mall, Mac Warehouse, etc. and >a few other reputable vendors and load up your shopping cart (and get >the shipping) and price compare. Then you can see who has the real >deal. The savings are usually in upgrade, accessory, and shipping >prices. If you compare system against system, they're all about the >same. If you're buying a system, monitor, etc and getting into the >thousands of dollars, just saving state sales tax can make a >significant difference. That is good advice, except the places that you mentioned are not where I would check. Especially not MacMall, which, if you do a Web search, you will find that they often screw over customers. The best places, IMNSHO, are: www.powermax.com www.smalldog.com Both also carry a selection of refurbished Macs. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html