On Nov 4, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Steven Rogers wrote: > On Nov 4, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Leah Aronoff wrote: > >> Boy! None of this sounds like Newbies talk to me. It is >> incomprehensible to me. . . . > > Yeah - that's why I said "MacPorts is another package system like > Fink" - for the purposes of this list, that's what it is. > > Package systems are supposed to make installing and updating > software that comes from the developer community work like "magic", > the way Software Update works. For the user who wants it to just > work without understanding all the details, I think MacPorts will be > slightly more "magical" than Fink. This is the point I was ultimately trying to make. If a new user uses Fink to install a command line UNIX or X11 program than they end up with an command line environment that will be subtly and confusingly different from OS X's command line environment. A new users would be much better off using MacPorts, unless the program they were after was only available via Fink, and if they choose to go with Fink I wanted them to be aware of this potential confusion. Fink is great if you explicitly want to have a GNU/Linux like environment available on OS X, but for new users MacPorts is the better choice because it uses OS X's UNIX facilities instead of replacing it with a similar, but subtly different one. Phil