On 27 Jun, 2004, at 15:27, Jerry Krinock wrote: > Thanks, William. These details would be nice, but I just want to show > my > ISP that is failed. They should have a log of failures at the higher > levels. Yeah, maybe. But with "big" ISP's like Earthlink, they are not much different from TPC (The phone company) ... things get magically fixed even though their logs show no problems. >> In my case, with my DSL line I have a real ISP and static addresses, >> don't have to use PPPOE and DHCP. I have a script which runs >> periodically on one of my systems which uses ping to determine if >> certain portions of the network are reachable. > > I do not have static IP with Earthlink, but I don't think that > matters. I > think that pinging their POP server, or, say, yahoo.com would be > sufficient. > I presume your script is a cron job? Correct. The only trick/problem with PPOE based ISPs is that they frequently block ping (ICMP) traffic. >> I have had DSL since the beginning, so I have a seriously dumb and >> non-manageable DSL modem. > > Mine may be more manageable but you have to connect a Windows PC with > and > old-fashioned RS232 to the "comm" port. I don't think it is "web > addressable." That's probably only for the pretty GUI. It probably has an "undocumented" command line interface. Try simply connecting the serial port on the Mac (via a Keyspan serial adapter) and use something like Kermit to connect to it. (you need a serial communications program, not a TCP/IP based program. ... unless of course the modem actually supports PPP itself, which is a possibility. What kind of modem is it? You can probably find the OEM specs on the web. > During the last hour, I set my pop email client to check for email > every 1 > minute. The trouble I found is that, with PPPoE, once the connection > drops, > it seems the Mac OS defaults to the internal modem (even though it is > "not > configured"), and does not seem try to re-establish PPPoE until I open > System Preferences > Network > Show: Network Status and click Connect. > This > is even though I have checked "Connec automatially when needed" and > "Send > PPP echo packets", and un-checked "Disconnect if idle". > > Does anyone know if this can be made to reconnect automatically with > PPPoE? Check MacOXhints or MacFixit ... I've heard discussions about this problem but don't recall where. Although, I know it is common as Linksys has instructions for dealing with it under Windows as part of their Users manual. They include the comment -- "PPPoE by nature is not a "dedicated connection". The DSL Internet Service Provider can disconnect the service after a period of inactivity, just like the normal phone dial-up connection to the Internet. There is an option to Keep Alive. This may not ways work, so you may need to re-establish connection." >> As far as troubleshooting interference on the DSL line, the most >> likely >> problem has to do with the modem loosing sync with the DSLAM. The >> cause >> is one of two things -- either you have real "line noise" problem; or >> you have CO activity which results in the DSLAM being reset on a >> "routine" basis by Telco technicians.... > > I believe the problem is impulse noise which comes and goes. Until > recently, we only had the problem when it rained, but during the past > sunny > week it's been doing it on and off all day. There is a correlation > between > the DSL being out of sync, with the amount of impulse noise (which > sounds > like kkkkick......kkkkkick) that I hear on our voice telephone. > > William, please post your script when you get a chance!! Unless there's a great deal of interest, I'll send it to you independently. It's a typical hack ... not packaged or documented. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a # XP1000 [Alpha EV6] magill at mcgillsociety.org magill at acm.org magill at mac.com