I've observed two annoying anomalies with Address Book and Mail.app Mail 2.0.1 (730) Address Book 4.0.1 (472) OS X 10.4.1 I've encountered an issue with Address book where the groups keep vanishing as soon as you edit an entry or export an address from Mail.App to the Address Book. So far, I can get them back by re-synching with .mac, but as soon as I go to edit an entry, they vanish again. I'd also love to know what the little circling arrows next to "All" means... the implication is that it is syncing, but I suspect that it really just means that it's busy. The second issue is with mail.app -- it double counts the number of incoming messages -- randomly. I suspect it happens if I launch mail.app and don't read all of the new messages in a given mail box, quit and then re-launch mail.app. [I run my own IMAP server and use procmail to sort the incoming messages into multiple inboxes.] Doing a quick search on some of the boards, I have seen a couple of people comment on the groups issue in Address book, but no answers. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 [Rev A motherboard - 300 MHz 768 Meg] OS X 10.2.8 # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) [800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg] OS X 10.3.8 # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg] Tru64 5.1a # XP1000 [Alpha 21264-3 (EV6) - 256 meg] FreeBSD 5.3 # XP1000 [Alpha 21264-A (EV 6.7) - 384 meg] FreeBSD 5.3 magill at mcgillsociety.org magill at acm.org magill at mac.com whmagill at gmail.com