Eric, This G4 has worked for years. I don't see why I should have a router. The hub the G4 is connected to has also a G3. I switched ports on this hub. The G3 is still connected. The G4 never. My isp is Telenet in Belgium. Paul Moortgat On 2-nov-04, at 15:49, E.F.Maurer wrote: > On Sunday 31 October 2004 05:05, Paul Moortgat wrote: >> Mark, >> >> I filled in 169.254.57.141 and pinged for 10 times ant it was 10 Tx >> and >> 10 Tr and 0% errors. > >>>> IP address : 169.254.57.141 > > Paul, > A 169 ip address is a fake ip, given by the mac itself when it couldn't > contact your dhcp server(aka modem). > > Who is you isp? > > If it's comcast > > go to http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108073 > > Which will explain parts of the problem. I also wouldn't try the fix > myself, > the work around that i was told by comcast was to buy a router, which i > needed anyway, and haven't had problems since. > > HTH > Eric