[X4U] Airport upgrade troubles

[Birgit Rhoads]

I did the update, but when the screen came up with a redo of Airport 
set up assistant, I closed out of that as I am already set up!  Working 
fine.  Airport Base Station is screwy enough without confusing it 
anymore.
Birgit
On Nov 19, 2004, at 9:46 AM, db wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:50:52 +0100, Xavier Noria wrote:
>> Thank you! Unfortunately it didn't work here, the base station even
>> didn't show up in the admin utility. I tried the 1 second reset, and
>> the 5 seconds reset, no luck.
>
> You're not the only one having these types of problems with Airport, 
> and don't feel bad, the fixes are generic and just basically good luck 
> wishes. One thing about really resetting the airport: sometimes in 
> order to get your computer to see it when its plugged in via the 
> cable, you have to do stuff like set your IP to: 192.42.249.14 with 
> the router as 192.42.249.13 and the subnet mask as 255.255.255.0. It's 
> retarded, but what can you do.
>
>> I am not very familiar with networks, but looks like the base station
>> somehow justs passes its IP to the PowerBook, because when the base
>> station wasn't plugged into the router the laptop had a 10.0.x.x
>> address, and the tools found the base station at 10.0.1.1.
>
> Huh, yea I don't think I understand... but if it's finding it at 
> 10.1.1.1 then the base station is doing NAT.
>
>> Afterwards, when I put the Ethernet cable in the plug again and renew
>> DHCP, the laptop got a 192.168.x.x that looks like an IP from the
>> router.
>
> That IP is a self-assigned IP, meaning when the computer (or the 
> airport) can't for some reason get an IP via DHCP, it just assigns 
> itself that for lack of anything better to do.
>
>> If the interface is different it may happen that the laptop
>> just didn't resolve 10.0.1.1 in the router's network. Does that make
>> sense? Why is not the base station managing its own network and doing
>> NAT towards the router?
>
> You you need to have "share this network via NAT & DHCP" selected in 
> the airport admin for the router, which tells it to do NAT, which I'm 
> assuming you've done. There might be something funky going on between 
> the base station and the router upstream... to where it doesn't think 
> you're on the same network.
>
> There have been a ton of reports of this in the forums (apple has a 
> habit of deleting them), and a lot of them orient around Comcast, etc. 
> Apple has never really offered a fix for the affected users, although 
> they did say once that they thought it had something to do with the 
> Airport base station getting the subnets confused: I.E., the base 
> station somehow thinks it's on one, and thinks everyone trying to 
> access the base station is on another. Things went really weird 
> between 10.3 and one of the firmware updates, with most people I know 
> who had the problem giving up and considering it a couple of hundred 
> dollars down the drain.
>
> It generally only affects Airport's: plug in any other model from 
> another company, and it works great.
>
> drunkenbatman ( there! )
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