On Apr 30, 2005, at 5:11 PM, DZ-Jay wrote: >> It's not applications that access the raw data on disc; it's the >> file system and operating system. >> > > Wrong. Its the CD reader hardware that have direct access to the > disc. The applications get their information from it. Commercial > hardware and software, is commonly crippled to prevent (or make > difficult) bit-by-bit copying. Man, you won't give up, will you... Yes, it's the hardware that reads the bits; but it's the operating system that copies those bits (in the case of a copy); there's no passing through a sound card. Kirk Author of: iPod & iTunes Garage http://www.mcelhearn.com/ipod.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France