I seem to always experience the weirdest OS X problems. Here's the current situation: Last week I needed to fax some information and remember reading a blurb about using OS X's built-in faxing capabilities, so I thought I'd give it a test run. On my 15" 1.5GHz Powerbook I opened System Prefs and proceeded to click on the Faxing tab to enable it. Suddenly, I get the spinning cursor. After a few moments I decide to force a reboot and it hangs during the initializing services stage - it won't get past initializing network settings. I unplug the ethernet cable and try again - this time it hangs during "Starting Shake Qmaster services". Grrrr. I pop in the system disk, verifying and repairing permissions numerous times and still it won't boot. I performed a fresh OS X install about 2 months ago and everything has been fine since this latest episode. I next tried to boot up using Diskwarrior, but my disc (which was created/upgraded 2 months ago using the then electronic upgrade to v 3.0.2) would not boot the Powerbook, instead causing a "you must restart your system" gray screen warning. The strange thing is, I was able to use this newly created disc to boot my Sawtooth G4 when I was having problems with that machine a few months ago. I've since ordered the CD revision 36 update, but won't be able to put it to the test until it arrives, which could take 3-4 weeks. (The upgrade costs around $50, and I didn't want to take a chance buying a store version not knowing if that version would contain an OSX 10.3 compliant version) In the meantime, I don't have that much critical data on the Powerbook, but I do have a few things I haven't backed up that I'd like not to lose. So then I thought, "hmm, I wonder if I can boot up with firewire target mode?" It worked, and I was able to mount my Powerbook, retrieve and backup the current work on it. I guess my question is - does this sound like a permissions problem? I'm hoping that Diskwarrior will be able to rebuild the directories and do it's magic so that I won't have to wipe the drive and start over from scratch (though, that will be much easier to do now that I was able to mount and save my data). Everything looks normal when I view the contents of the Powerbook hard drive while mounted in firewire target mode. Thanks for any thoughts, observations, or suggestions. -Steve