>Reboot it again (play+select, menu+play?), when the apple screen >comes on hold down back and forward arrows simultaneously. This >will put it in firewire mode, so then it will mount when you plug >the firewire into your mac. Thanks for the help. It refused to reboot, and made the clicking noises, so I guess it is dead. Well, gives me an excuse to order a Shuffle while I wait for the 5G iPods... -- ________________________________ J-LIST http://www.jlist.com Thousands of unique products from Japan, from Hello Kitty toilet paper to miniature sushi to our world-famous "I'm looking for a Japanese girlfriend" T-shirts. Visit us now! Interested in my life in Japan? See the Peter Payne homepage at http://www.peterpayne.net/