[X4U] Major Tiger problem, login has spinning beachball > 5 hours

lj Palmer darwin at ljsworld.com
Sat May 14 17:44:57 PDT 2005


Did you remove all your login/startup items in your account before  
the upgrade.  This sounds like a startup item that may not be tiger  
compatible.  The upgrade may otherwise be ok, if you wife's account  
is OK.
..lj

On May 14, 2005, at 16:08, John Daschbach wrote:

>
> I am having some major troubles with Tiger which I would only  
> expect in alpha or beta software.  I upgraded 3 machines, two from  
> 10.2 and one from 10.3.   The first time I logged back into my G3  
> iMac (768MB) I got to the start of drawing the menubar on the  
> desktop and the spinning beachball of death came on for about 5  
> minutes.  After upgrading iTunes I rebooted and at the same point  
> in the login the beachball started.  The system is unresponsive.   
> The Spotlight entry is in the menubar on the right hand side, the  
> rest of the menubar is not drawn.  After 5 hours I ssh'd over and  
> shutdown the system (/sbin/shutdown).  Upon rebooting I logged into  
> my wife's acount.  The beachball was present for a minute or so and  
> then the desktop was populated.  I then did a fast user switch to  
> my account.  The same result as before, beachball of death.  The  
> CPU hog is ATSServer, which restarts as soon as it is killed.  I  
> found some info on the net claiming font caches were the problem  
> with ATSServer hogging the cpu to the exclusion of everything else  
> in 10.3.  I rebooted, ssh'd over and deleted the recomended caches,  
> then tried to login from the console.  Same spinning beachball of  
> death.
>
> So now I have an unusable Mac, thanks to Tiger.  It must be some  
> cache in my file tree, but I have rm'd all the font and ATS caches  
> I have found.  This system has worked on 10.2 since it was  
> released.  I really consider it unacceptable that a system process  
> like ATSServer has no internal checks.  One would think that a  
> process which can halt the login might check to see if it had been  
> running for say 50 or 100 seconds and then proceed and advise the  
> user how to fix the process (which the system should do for itself).
>
> I'm open to ideas on what to remove so I can login.
>
> -John
>
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