Richard Nagle said: >Found a old pdf file, that I had, >well, went to go print it, and needs a password.. >nuts, are there any password remover for pdf files, >or is that it? You might want to try re-saving the PDF under OS X...as a PDF in the Print dialog box. The resulting identical PDF may in some cases no longer have any security set. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html