On 9 Aug 2006, at 21:45, Robert Ameeti wrote: > At 5:45 PM +0100, 8/9/06, Simon Forster wrote: > >> Oh dear, I didn't really want to get involved in this but did you >> follow the link supplied by Stroller <http://arstechnica.com/ >> news.ars/post/20041011-4276.html>? This seems to support >> Stroller's assertion with respect to OEM licenses. > > O please. Because someone has access to a html editor does not make > them an authority on anything. The same could be said of email clients. > That writer chooses to take the similar position of since many > people are doing it, and since he wants to interpret it with a > gaping loophole, then he can do what he wants to do. Read my link > supplied as to Microsoft's rewording of their OEM license to make > it even more clear what their intent is. And it is not to have > people thinking that OEMs are people that purchase USB cables. 1) Your supplied link is to a blog by a Mike Finn which references a license which I can't gain access to as it requires one to be a Microsoft partner or some such. 2) The link I supplied to the actual OEM license<http:// download.microsoft.com/documents/uk/partner/licensing_and_compliance/ licence_options/oem/downloads/oem-licence.pdf> clearly has the clause referencing “nonperipheral computer hardware component” in place. >> There's a link through to Directron.com which points to a product >> that's out of stock. However, the blurb for this product clearly >> states under what circumstances the product can be purchased. > > Because Directron is doing something wrong does not set a new > understanding of what the license allows them to do. Read the OEM > license and you will see that what they are doing violates the > license. As are the 2 UK outlets I supplied links to, as are any number of other suppliers of hardware and software. They're all wrong, you're right? >> Here in the UK I don't seem to have any problem getting an OEM >> version. > > And I have no problem getting cocaine from my local supplier and > many others on my street. Doesn't make it legal. And goodnight. When you start comparing buying software to getting hold of cocaine, end of discussion. Simon Forster _______________________________________________________ LDML Ltd, 62 Pall Mall, London, SW1Y 5HZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8133 0528 Fax: +44 (0)70 9230 5247 _______________________________________________________