nk said: >pardon me..external drives is what I've been talking about >here..sorry, I wasn't specific. I have now had 8 external drives, ALL >without fans, all seemingly doomed to cook themselves to death >prematurely. What brands? I always put my own external drives together using a FireWire case kit. That way I can determine for myself which brand and model of mechanism is in the case (most external drive manufacturers, such as La Cie, won't guarantee a particular mechanism or model of mechanism), and I can choose a case that has the characteristics that I want. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html