My parents have a network consisting of a dsl modem, Snow Airport base station, Netgear Range Extender (which uses the one ethernet port on the ABS) to boost the signal to a room above the garage, my mom's iMac G4 (that connects with an Airport card, and is close enough that it doesn't use the Range Extender's signal), and my dad's Dell pc with some kind of wifi card, which needs the Netgear Range Extender to connect. All has been working fine. I stopped by the house to answer my mother's query about Software Update's persistent messages. It turned out she was quite behind, and was still at 10.4.7. I used Software Update to install 10.4.8. Instead of an easy restart, I had to shut down--I had failed to notice that my dad was logged in with fast user switching (this probaby has nothing to do with anything, but in case it does, I'm mentioning it), so I shut down, and then re-booted and repaired permissions. Everything seemed to go fine with that. Except, the Airport Base Station is dead to us. No matter what we've tried, we can't get it to be seen. We have tried several hard re-sets of the ABS to no avail--we did connect the iMac by ethernet to the ABS to reconfigure it afterward, and the lights seem to indicate that the ABS is actually resetting itself. We tried trashing three preference files (com.apple.internetconfig and the like, we'd found a list on Macfixit). We deleted all the networks listed as preferred networks, and re-listing them (something else suggested on Macfixit). We're using Airport Admin Utility and Internet Config. Neither find any trace of the ABS and its ID. We have connected the iMac directly to the dsl modem and finished updating it, so it now has the remaining Security Updates installed. Does anyone have any ideas for something else we could try? Is the answer a new and speedier (g) router? Thanks, Mary