I passed my dual G5 down the food chain (to my son) last weekend. We tried to use Firewire Target Disk Mode to transfer his "stuff" from a mirrored-doors G4, but the older computer would just shut down a few seconds after the startup "bong" and some disk activity. I read somewhere that some G4 computers with Open Firmware might require booting INTO open firmware before they'd function in target disk mode. Is that what we encountered? I tried looking in Apple's knowledge base but didn't find an answer. Thanks so much, Jim Robertson --