Wow, the list serv is doing a wonderful job of holding messages! I just received this message and am replying immediately! J.R., The best advice I can give you is to either commit to investing many hours into testing the machine or to move on - It is a G4 and is obsolete, move on! Okay, now that I've said that, and I'm sure I have aggravated a few people, I have a similar machine that was given to me due to all the same issues you describe. I have found that it is very finicky about hardware. RAM, PCI cards, PRAM battery, even hard drives! Also, the power supplies are a known problem in these machines. I spent weeks (every evening) testing, re-installing the OS, testing, making hardware changes, and testing again until I found a hardware configuration that is stable. I also discovered that it is important to press the reset button on the main logic board after any hardware changes with this machine! I'd suggest removing every non Apple component from the machine, pressing the reset button, and testing the machine. If it is stable, add one component back to the machine, press the reset button, and test again. If it isn't stable in stock form, don't waste any more time with it. RAM can be particularly frustrating to test as I found that some sticks will work in certain slots, but cause issues in the other slots - it makes no sense to me, but that is what I found. The new Mini's are nice little machines for not much money... Dave On 25-Jun-09, at 18:12, J. R. Rosen wrote: > HELLO LISTERS ! ! ! > > I am running 10.4.11 on a 2002, Quicksilver 1.0gHz MP - 1.5gb RAM. > Was having crashes, freezes and kernel panics almost every day, so I > reinstalled the OS and brought it up to date with all of the proper > software enhancements from Apple. > > I am still having the same problems. I cannot isolate the sequence, > otherwise, I wouldn't be writing this. > > Is there a known bug of any kind, a virus, or some other anomaly > anyone knows of that could be causing this? > > It will KP with just Apple Mail and Safari open. It will freeze > when trying to awaken from sleep. I'll get the "Killer-Gray-Screen" > when trying to send an email. > > There is no rhyme or reason for any of this! > > HELP ! ! ! Any help, suggestions, or comments are appreciated! > > J. R. Rosen