I find it wierd and a bit dumb if currently-shipping machines can ONLY load Snow Leopard, since SL simply is not production-ready yet. For some people, perhaps, but this isn't like going from tiger to leopard; this is a significant under-the-hood change and lots of apps and tools do not work in SL. to me it seems dumb for apple to ship a computer which is essential crippled to some degree until x-number of months until apps and drivers are updated/made to work. Is there no way to shoehorn regular Leopard onto a new Mac? I personally can't WAIT to be full time in Snow Leopard, but at the mo...just too many deficits for it to be other than a novelty. zc