[BTM] Best Bluetooth Phone FOLLOW-UP

mindspring jffdcksn1 at mindspring.com
Thu Mar 13 14:33:37 PST 2003


Thanks KOZAK for the thorough summary; seems like the T68x is not nearly as
beloved as I'd suspected when I first posted my question.

Follow-up: Which is likely to happen first:
a. The superior Nokia/Siemens phones support Mac and iCal
b. Sony/Ericsson intros models that are equal in quality AND support
Mac/iCal (as it seems, there new phones don't do iCal).
c. another scenario

???

> From: KOZAK Imre Oliver <ki023 at hszk.bme.hu>
> Reply-To: "Bluetooth-Mac" <bluetooth-mac at lists.themacintoshguy.com>
> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:59:48 +0100
> To: "Bluetooth-Mac" <bluetooth-mac at lists.themacintoshguy.com>
> Subject: Re: [BTM] Best Bluetooth Phone
> 
> You have to decide for what do you want to use your future phone.
> 
> You can use it for three things:
> 1) Address book pop-up message for incoming calls
> 2) Address book/calendar synchronization
> 3) Internet access
> 
> For 1) and 3) all bluetooth phones are OK. My sister uses a Nokia
> 6310i. It has an extremly fast menu, instantenous, really. It has T9
> for many languages, not just English, and you can use different T9 and
> menu languages. It has a huge memory for addresses (and can store
> addresses, e-mails, phone numbers, etc.), has a very good calendar,
> java capabilities (can download software, huge amount of games, etc.).
> It also has a huge battery life, between 1-2 weeks, depending how much
> you use bluetooth and how much you talk. Really excellent phone.
> 
> Siemens phones are quite popular here, in fact the most popular. A
> great addition beginning from the S45 is the possibility to access the
> memory as a file structure. You can archive to the phone memory
> hundreds of sms, pictures, etc, and on the PC, you can upload any txt
> files (like trains schedules, bank office open times, etc.) for
> reference. Or you can enter it as SMS, and save, so you have a
> virtually unlimited message pad. Siemens has a bit wired menu
> structure, but one you get onto it, no problem. And there is an
> excellent feature: you can map any function to the number keys, not
> only phone numbers. Like that, you can have direct access to bluetooth
> switch on/off, calendar, notepad, etc. Siemens really likes to put all
> functionalty in, at a lower price.
> 
> If you want address book/calendar synchronization, there are two
> options. First, you can use iSync with the Ericsson R520, T39 and T68,
> T68m, T68i, and only via bluetooth. If you want to sync with Entourage,
> there is mobilesync, it can sync via cable, bluetooth, infrared, and
> supports, Ericsson R520, T39, T68, T68m, T68i, and T65. The R520 and
> T39 has a slow menu structure compared to Siemens and Nokia phones. The
> T68 is also quite slow, but it can be upgraded for free by any Ericsson
> Service point to the T68i software, which is way faster, and allows
> access to a larger amount of memory (physically the T68, T68m and T68i
> have the same electronics inside).
> 
> The fact that you can synchronize or not depends on the synchronization
> protocol your phone uses. iSync and MobileSync uses the IrMC language
> to sync, and currently only these few Ericsson phones use this
> protocol. Nokia uses a proprietary protocol, the SonyEricsson P800 uses
> SyncML, so they are not supported.
> 
> I myself bought a T68m two weeks ago, and had the software upgraded to
> the T68i software a week ago. The speed change is dramatic. Compared to
> the Nokia and Siemens phones I had, it is slow and not intuitive at
> all. The joy on the T68 is not very good, you can get used to it, but I
> don't like it. Overall the phone feels like a toy. Battery life is
> good, if you don't talk or use bluetooth and never connect via gprs. I
> talk, have bluetooth switched on all day long, set up the automatic
> e-mail access for 2 hours on the phone, and browse the net for 1 hour
> each day (bluetooth+gprs), and have to recharge each two days. There is
> no desk stand (that could both charge the phone and a second battery).
> The address book can store only phone numbers and e-mail, it cannot
> store mail addresses. I would say the 6310i rules over the T68 for me
> in every aspect, but it cannot sync with my mac, so I had to go for the
> T68. The worst in all Ericsson phones is the fact that the Yes/No and
> Pick up/Hang up is on the same keys. If you are in the middle writing
> an SMS, or brwosing your calendar, no luck... while on the Nokia, you
> can pick up/hang up independently. There is no T9 in Hungarian for the
> T68, what is very basic today, I think.
> The colour screen is also ambivalent... it is easier to read black text
> on white compared to dark grey on light gray, but in strong sunlight it
> is hard to read. No unreadable, but hard to read. The backlight of the
> T68 is also very strong for the eye, Nokia and Siemens has a more ample
> setting.
> So, the T68 is not a bad phone, not a good phone, it is a rather
> average phone by my standards.
> 
> So, if you don't need address book sync, you can choose any bluetooth
> phone you like. The Best bluetooth phone is the Ericsson P800 I think,
> then the Nokia 7650 is very close. If you need sync, you have to
> content with one of the R520 - T39 - T68.
> 
> If you have any question, I am happy to reply.
> Imre
> 
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