Thanks KOZAK for the thorough summary; seems like the T68x is not nearly as beloved as I'd suspected when I first posted my question. Follow-up: Which is likely to happen first: a. The superior Nokia/Siemens phones support Mac and iCal b. Sony/Ericsson intros models that are equal in quality AND support Mac/iCal (as it seems, there new phones don't do iCal). c. another scenario ??? > From: KOZAK Imre Oliver <ki023 at hszk.bme.hu> > Reply-To: "Bluetooth-Mac" <bluetooth-mac at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:59:48 +0100 > To: "Bluetooth-Mac" <bluetooth-mac at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Subject: Re: [BTM] Best Bluetooth Phone > > You have to decide for what do you want to use your future phone. > > You can use it for three things: > 1) Address book pop-up message for incoming calls > 2) Address book/calendar synchronization > 3) Internet access > > For 1) and 3) all bluetooth phones are OK. My sister uses a Nokia > 6310i. It has an extremly fast menu, instantenous, really. It has T9 > for many languages, not just English, and you can use different T9 and > menu languages. It has a huge memory for addresses (and can store > addresses, e-mails, phone numbers, etc.), has a very good calendar, > java capabilities (can download software, huge amount of games, etc.). > It also has a huge battery life, between 1-2 weeks, depending how much > you use bluetooth and how much you talk. Really excellent phone. > > Siemens phones are quite popular here, in fact the most popular. A > great addition beginning from the S45 is the possibility to access the > memory as a file structure. You can archive to the phone memory > hundreds of sms, pictures, etc, and on the PC, you can upload any txt > files (like trains schedules, bank office open times, etc.) for > reference. Or you can enter it as SMS, and save, so you have a > virtually unlimited message pad. Siemens has a bit wired menu > structure, but one you get onto it, no problem. And there is an > excellent feature: you can map any function to the number keys, not > only phone numbers. Like that, you can have direct access to bluetooth > switch on/off, calendar, notepad, etc. Siemens really likes to put all > functionalty in, at a lower price. > > If you want address book/calendar synchronization, there are two > options. First, you can use iSync with the Ericsson R520, T39 and T68, > T68m, T68i, and only via bluetooth. If you want to sync with Entourage, > there is mobilesync, it can sync via cable, bluetooth, infrared, and > supports, Ericsson R520, T39, T68, T68m, T68i, and T65. The R520 and > T39 has a slow menu structure compared to Siemens and Nokia phones. The > T68 is also quite slow, but it can be upgraded for free by any Ericsson > Service point to the T68i software, which is way faster, and allows > access to a larger amount of memory (physically the T68, T68m and T68i > have the same electronics inside). > > The fact that you can synchronize or not depends on the synchronization > protocol your phone uses. iSync and MobileSync uses the IrMC language > to sync, and currently only these few Ericsson phones use this > protocol. Nokia uses a proprietary protocol, the SonyEricsson P800 uses > SyncML, so they are not supported. > > I myself bought a T68m two weeks ago, and had the software upgraded to > the T68i software a week ago. The speed change is dramatic. Compared to > the Nokia and Siemens phones I had, it is slow and not intuitive at > all. The joy on the T68 is not very good, you can get used to it, but I > don't like it. Overall the phone feels like a toy. Battery life is > good, if you don't talk or use bluetooth and never connect via gprs. I > talk, have bluetooth switched on all day long, set up the automatic > e-mail access for 2 hours on the phone, and browse the net for 1 hour > each day (bluetooth+gprs), and have to recharge each two days. There is > no desk stand (that could both charge the phone and a second battery). > The address book can store only phone numbers and e-mail, it cannot > store mail addresses. I would say the 6310i rules over the T68 for me > in every aspect, but it cannot sync with my mac, so I had to go for the > T68. The worst in all Ericsson phones is the fact that the Yes/No and > Pick up/Hang up is on the same keys. If you are in the middle writing > an SMS, or brwosing your calendar, no luck... while on the Nokia, you > can pick up/hang up independently. There is no T9 in Hungarian for the > T68, what is very basic today, I think. > The colour screen is also ambivalent... it is easier to read black text > on white compared to dark grey on light gray, but in strong sunlight it > is hard to read. No unreadable, but hard to read. The backlight of the > T68 is also very strong for the eye, Nokia and Siemens has a more ample > setting. > So, the T68 is not a bad phone, not a good phone, it is a rather > average phone by my standards. > > So, if you don't need address book sync, you can choose any bluetooth > phone you like. The Best bluetooth phone is the Ericsson P800 I think, > then the Nokia 7650 is very close. If you need sync, you have to > content with one of the R520 - T39 - T68. > > If you have any question, I am happy to reply. > Imre > > > ############################################################# > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list <bluetooth-mac at lists.themacintoshguy.com>. > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <bluetooth-mac-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <bluetooth-mac-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Send administrative queries to > <bluetooth-mac-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> >