I hit delete when I see the name Jack. Life is better that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Rodgers" <jackrodgers at earthlink.net> To: "iBook List" <ibook at lists.themacintoshguy.com> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [P1] Hot Spots in the U.S. > > On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 12:51 AM, viaoddbrainstorm wrote: > > > I think you missed my point. How about watching a neighbors pay > > television through an uncovered window from the street. > > You might get arrested for being a peeping tom or violating your > neighbors privacy or some other such law. > > > Similarly anyone with a wireless network transmitting into a public > > space using public airwaves who doesn't take steps to insure their > > privacy really shouldn't be bothered by someone launching an e-mail > > app and retrieving their mail wirelessly. > > Again, this attitude is fostered by the desire to get something for > nothing or a free lunch and not a knowledge of any laws. > > > That is hardly analogous to tapping phone lines or breaking into a > > password protected network; both of which are wrong (unless of course > > one is operating under the protections of the Patriot Act, then I > > suppose it would be for the good of America, and by consequence world > > citizens alike). > > Again, the desire for a free lunch causes the creation of self serving > logic. > > What is left unconsidered are the possible dangers in getting a free > ride off of someone else's wifi. These involve any possible legal > problems, you don't know who put up the unprotected connection and what > they might do to you (hacker, etc), your password, email and surfing > are easily seen by someone else, there may be no firewall protection, > etc. There are all sorts of interesting scenarios where getting that > free lunch could turn out to be quite expensive. > > Remember, every bit of data that flows into and out of the wifi base > station can be intercepted and read by someone controlling the base > station just as a phone can be tapped. > > Some one said someone said that the cpu serial number can't be read > (would be tossed out in court as hearsay, I would imagine). Don't need > to. You are sending your ISP account name and password when you log in > for your email. Each email header has your address and other > identifying info. The date and time sent for instance might prove you > were using their wifi channel while eating in their cafeteria, proven > by your charge card receipt. If you use a microsoft mailer, it may even > include the id or serial number of the mailer. And then there are > cookies. > > --- > Lobate Black Scale -- A Photo Essay By Jack Rodgers > http://www.jackrodgers.com > > > ---------- > iBookList, a listserv for users and fans of Apple's iBook. > FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/iBookListFAQ.shtml> > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <ibook-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <ibook-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. <ibook-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > ---------- > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | > -- Canon Digital Camcorders start at $799 | Free iBook! | > > iBookPlanet.com | Visit iBookPlanet.com for the hottest > | iBook News, Features, Reviews & More. > > RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler > CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at <http://roadtools.com> > > MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! > Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> >