[P1] Hot Spots in the U.S.

Ted Greer tedgreer at pacbell.net
Sat Feb 1 07:37:23 PST 2003


I hit delete when I see the name Jack. Life is better that way.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Rodgers" <jackrodgers at earthlink.net>
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Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [P1] Hot Spots in the U.S.


>
> On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 12:51  AM, viaoddbrainstorm wrote:
>
> > I think you missed my point.  How about watching a neighbors pay
> > television through an uncovered window  from  the street.
>
> You might get arrested for being a peeping tom or violating your
> neighbors privacy or some other such law.
>
> > Similarly anyone with a wireless network transmitting into a public
> > space using public airwaves who doesn't take steps to insure their
> > privacy really shouldn't be bothered by someone launching an e-mail
> > app and retrieving their mail wirelessly.
>
> Again, this attitude is fostered by the desire to get something for
> nothing or a free lunch and not a knowledge of any laws.
>
> > That is hardly analogous to tapping phone lines or breaking into a
> > password protected network; both of which are wrong (unless of course
> > one is operating under the protections of the Patriot Act, then I
> > suppose it would be for the good of America, and by consequence world
> > citizens alike).
>
> Again, the desire for a free lunch causes the creation of self serving
> logic.
>
> What is left unconsidered are the possible dangers in getting a free
> ride off of someone else's wifi. These involve any possible legal
> problems, you don't know who put up the unprotected connection and what
> they might do to you (hacker, etc), your password, email and surfing
> are easily seen by someone else, there may be no firewall protection,
> etc. There are all sorts of interesting scenarios where getting that
> free lunch could turn out to be quite expensive.
>
> Remember, every bit of data that flows into and out of the wifi base
> station can be intercepted and read by someone controlling the base
> station just as a phone can be tapped.
>
> Some one said someone said that the cpu serial number can't be read
> (would be tossed out in court as hearsay, I would imagine). Don't need
> to. You are sending your ISP account name and password when you log in
> for your email. Each email header has your address and other
> identifying info. The date and time sent for instance might prove you
> were using their wifi channel while eating in their cafeteria, proven
> by your charge card receipt. If you use a microsoft mailer, it may even
> include the id or serial number of the mailer. And then there are
> cookies.
>
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