On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 12:51 AM, viaoddbrainstorm wrote: > I think you missed my point. How about watching a neighbors pay > television through an uncovered window from the street. You might get arrested for being a peeping tom or violating your neighbors privacy or some other such law. > Similarly anyone with a wireless network transmitting into a public > space using public airwaves who doesn't take steps to insure their > privacy really shouldn't be bothered by someone launching an e-mail > app and retrieving their mail wirelessly. Again, this attitude is fostered by the desire to get something for nothing or a free lunch and not a knowledge of any laws. > That is hardly analogous to tapping phone lines or breaking into a > password protected network; both of which are wrong (unless of course > one is operating under the protections of the Patriot Act, then I > suppose it would be for the good of America, and by consequence world > citizens alike). Again, the desire for a free lunch causes the creation of self serving logic. What is left unconsidered are the possible dangers in getting a free ride off of someone else's wifi. These involve any possible legal problems, you don't know who put up the unprotected connection and what they might do to you (hacker, etc), your password, email and surfing are easily seen by someone else, there may be no firewall protection, etc. There are all sorts of interesting scenarios where getting that free lunch could turn out to be quite expensive. Remember, every bit of data that flows into and out of the wifi base station can be intercepted and read by someone controlling the base station just as a phone can be tapped. Some one said someone said that the cpu serial number can't be read (would be tossed out in court as hearsay, I would imagine). Don't need to. You are sending your ISP account name and password when you log in for your email. Each email header has your address and other identifying info. The date and time sent for instance might prove you were using their wifi channel while eating in their cafeteria, proven by your charge card receipt. If you use a microsoft mailer, it may even include the id or serial number of the mailer. And then there are cookies. --- Lobate Black Scale -- A Photo Essay By Jack Rodgers http://www.jackrodgers.com