On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 08:25 AM, Gorjan Todorovski wrote: >> I had more than onw situation when some application is running >> fullscreen (sually games) and the application crashes/freezes, the >> whole system freezes and I cannot force quit the app. I try pressing >> Esc+option+apple buttons to start the Force Quit window, also I try >> to switch to some other app by pressing tab+apple nothing works so I >> need to completely shutdown and restart. I haven't had to do this much since Jaguar but pre-Jag I found that holding down the Option+Command keys and then pressing the esc key, sometimes several times, worked best. also make sure you haven't assigned something to your esc key via quickeys or other program. --- jackrodgers at earthlink.net http://www.jackrodgers.com