Apple's new Safari web browser is still beta but it kicks MS IE butte on 10.2.3. I compared it with Macintouch.com and the text displays almost instantly with the ad banners taking a bit to show up. In IE it takes a long time for the banners to show up and then the text appears. This is on a dial up line. --- I propose that all elections for public office be advanced two years so that anyone elected to office can serve a two year jail term for the crimes they are about to commit and that we will probably find hard to prove. Jack Rodgers Email: jackrodgers at earthlink.net Web: www.jackrodgers.com iCal: coming soon iBlog: coming soon