In the situation you describe with the newbie being a former pc user, I might suggest you stick with OS 9 for a few reasons: 3 Gig drive is probably not enough for X. Slow processor and minimal RAM. And the most important reason of all, there is a lack of people who really know how to handle OS X problems. I've been through the X-Problems and even with 15 years of consulting experience, it was a bear. With OS 9, it was easy...you throw the last few things you added to your drive and the problems disapeared or your trashed a certain set of preferences... Naturally there were other problems to deal with, but the X-Problems are far more difficult to trouble shoot. Thus, if your friend is four hours away and has problems, you might not be able to resolve them with X but you probably can with 9. I've solved problems with X over the phone but found my self, on my own Mac, absolutely stuck with X. Not that I didn't resolve them, but that 80% of the suggestions were not the answer. So, my suggestion and only for this particular situation is to install 9. Even though I feel X to be the far superior OS... --- I propose that all elections for public office be advanced two years so that anyone elected to office can serve a two year jail term for the crimes they are about to commit and that we will probably find hard to prove. Jack Rodgers Email: jackrodgers at earthlink.net Web: www.jackrodgers.com iCal: coming soon iBlog: coming soon