> I'm very grateful to everyone who posted advice about the 190. About > the > 7-year limit -- the 190 was introduced in 1995 -- I don't know the > discontinuation date. Unfortunately this particular 190 has an AA > after the > serial number! I'm still working on the problem -- will let you > know how it > all ends. MJo It was discontinued on 4-1-96 so Apple has to help you until 4-1-03. Apple promised support for these machines forever, before the 90 days only thing went into effect. Call them, try to work it out...and if it turns out to be a hardware problem...you might be able to finagle a new iBook out of the situation... More info can be found here: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook/stats/ mac_powerbook190_66.html