I have a radio show that I listen to, they did have 12 types of streams, including Real... Recently they dropped all but one and are pushing everyone to get Winamp3. I was assuming (yeah, I know..) that Winamp was a M$ creation, so I did not d/l it. When I clicked on the link on the website to listen, iTunes popped up and took over and I could listen through that...AMAZING! I went and checked out the Winamp site and it says it is a Nullsoft product...anyone have any experience with them?? Thanks, Fran BTW: my iBook is back the battery fits ok, it still does not have the smooth lines but at least it'll seat & lock without any struggle. I am now testing it's stamina... On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 02:02 AM, Joe Jones wrote: > I believe there are some projects out there that enable you to change > the nasty formats into something generic, but yo can't play them > directly. > > If you are going to use one of them, I'd have to suggest Real media on > the Mac. The player is actually quite reasonable (no spyware or other > offensive stuff like the PC version), and the most current incarnation > of the codec works on OS X. If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!