charlies well put. Macs are less hassle but some of us techs are still over worked for our salary. here i sit 8:30 at nite tryin to recover a mac manager server. luckily its now up and i am doing a backup before i leave to drive home 30 minutes down the highway on a cool canada wintery nite. -- Brian Hodkin CNA I.T. Specialist Budding writer Http://www.svsd.mb.ca/tcd/ Resident Computer tech and catch all Southwest Horizon School Division South Western Manitoba Canada " i work in schools but have no class"