> From: Brian Hodkin <bhodkin at merlin.mb.ca> > i welcome others comments Okay, let me weigh in with my tale. First up, location: central Florida. Here is a tale of two high schools. The first one is Celebration High School in Celebration, FL -- a sleepy, Disney-created small town for rich idiots outside Kissimmee. Several books have been written about the place -- suffice to say Disney's utopian vision has run head-on into reality. The school there has two HUGE Mac labs with at least 60 machines in each. I haven't been down there in quite a while so perhaps they've "switched" to the mobile lab approach by now, but on my last visit the labs were an explosion of colour with G4s and mostly CRT iMacs all over the place. The rest of the school, like the labs, run on Macs -- a total of about 300 machines altogether. There may be a few PCs in there, but they are rare. Technical support staff consists of one (1) little old lady (actually a spry 60-year-old) and two student assistants (one whose job is simply to run cabling, move machines and other physical tasks this lady wouldn't be able to handle on her own). She describes herself as "happy, but bored" thanks to the reliability and ease of use of the Macs. She spends most of her time reading Mac web sites and keeping up with the latest news and software. The student assistants are part-time and are not paid. Hardware failures get handled by an outsourced Mac-specialist. So that's one (1) paid tech for 300 macs. By the way, that's about 1 mac per student average (only about half of them are actually available to students, so the ratio is more like 2:1). Now let's move north to Seminole county and Lake Mary High School. It used to be about a 50/50 mix of Macs and PCs (teachers and journalism/arts students using Macs, the rest using PCs) until a Mac-hating superintendent of schools came along and phased out all the Macs. Despite the fact that they have more students than Celebration, they have roughly the same number of PCs, but more of them are available for students -- still, it's about a 2:1 ratio as well). Hardware failures can sometimes be repaired on-site, but most often go to the county's "depot" and are rarely seen again (sometimes eventually replaced with a new one, often not). Guess how many techs they have for THEIR 300 PCs? Seven. Four full-time, three part-time, and they are looking to hire three more full-timers to meet demand! That's ten techs for 300 or so PCs. Average salary per full-time tech: more than $40,000/year. Just between you and me, I think the lady in Celebration gets more money than they do, but you get the point. Every time someone (ahem) points this out to the board of education, they rebut: "the machines are so cheap to purchase ..." or "These kids have to work on Windows because that's what they will be using when they leave." Apparently the IT expense comes out of a different budget so nobody cares that they are spending at least 3x the cost of the machine per year to keep them in service, and can't even manage that. BTW, all the machines are running NT or Win98 to avoid licensing issues with Microsoft. As for the software ... let's just say the school lives in fear of a BSA audit. Every time someone points this out to the teachers, they roll their eyes and mutter something about how nobody listens to them. So, everyone on this list who's a parent or homeowner, paying taxes to keep your public school equipped ... how is YOUR school district spending the money you give them? _Chas_ "Of course the people don't want war ... But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goerring, founder of the Gestapo and Hitler's "No. 2"