On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:19 PM, Jay Boshara wrote: > Make sure to select Install Mac OS 9 Drivers so that current > versions of DiskWarrior, etc., will work when you need them. Then > click > Erase. You have just zeroed out your HD. The discussion here is over "zeroed out your HD" and not over the techniques that were outlined. This terminology has been used to describe overwriting the entire hard drive with ones and zeroes to make inaccessible all of the data it contains. Clicking the Erase button does not do this. So, one should not refer to that as zeroing the hard drive. I don't know of any dictionary, law or anything else that would prohibit such a use but it is misleading. All that erase does is erase the file directory. It does not zero the drive in the sense that it write zeros and ones to overwrite existing data on the hard drive. That is another option in the disk utility application and will take a LOT of time. Erase is almost instantaneous since it only erases the directory and does nothing to the data on the drive. As you install software and your files, you will overwrite the old data with the new and in some instances parts of the old data will remain intact until you overwrite it with more files and data. You can take a disk editor and see that all of the file data is still on your hard drive after using erase. A competent person could rebuild the drive directory, think Norton Utilities, and reclaim all of your files. This is why zeroing the drive is recommended before you sell it or give it to someone else. That data is effectively made inaccessible to anyone but a government agency and an electron microscope. Someone said that old overwritten data can be read at the atomic level.. Clicking the erase button only erases the disk directory and does not affect the data on the drive. The data is only accesible to someone with what we might call disk editing software, ResEdit comes to mind. These statements can be easily verified. Go to Versiontracker.com and search for resedit. --- Boycott French Kissing jackrodgers at earthlink.net http://www.jackrodgers.com