"target disk mode" ?? Try booting with the CD in the drive and holding down the "C" key from before you press the power button until you see a desktop. If you don't know what you're doing, be careful if that works; but you have to try exactly that. (If it works, basically you'll want to run Disk 1st Aid--which is on the CD--on the harddrive. Or buy Alsoft's Disk Warrior and try booting from that CD and run that program. Or both. :-) ) On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Brian Hugh Warren wrote: > Hi - I'm a newbie. . . . > I get a grey apple and nothing more. I try a restart from the iBook > software install CD, target disk mode, nothing in the optical drive, . . .