Don, I'm not 100% sure, but I think Fruitmenu is an OSX version of an application called Finderpop that was available on the OS8 and OS9 platforms. Its not a direct version or anything, simply that there wasn't anything like Finderpop available for OSX until Fruitmenu came out. For the record (Barry Manilow) I'm still happily using OS9, but I've gone from using Finderpop to Workstrip. All these apps are something similar to the pop up Start button you get on Windows desktops, which I think is a great idea. Glad to know the Mac has plenty of these available, but I wonder how many people really know of them. Sparky the Wonder Rottweiler