> > > In this follow up you are now indicating the problem is one of design or > manufacture - that Apple didn't adequately design the iBook or the > manufacturer didn't follow through on the design. In this regard we are on > the same page. > > david > It is nice that Apple has recognized the fact that they have a problem with the Ibook G3 and are attempting to correct it, but how many times do we have to keep sending it back. I bought the G3 Ibook 800m 14 inch to use it, not be a test subject to see if it works. The last 2 times I had to send it in, it took a hour on the phone each time and having to speak to a supervisor to get them to pickup the computer. Maybe a person should check out Dell, I don't belong to their list so don't know if they have same problems or not. Why don't they offer some upgrade that does work at a reasonable price, and by reasonable I mean not like the offer they did for the Performa 550. Bob